There are some men in the men's movement who think we can form strategic allegiances with feminist groups.

They are wrong.

Some of them are wrong because they just haven't been around long enough, or haven't thought about it enough. If they had, then what I am about to outline below would quickly dawn upon them.

However, some of these men are more slippery characters. My guess is that they were attracted to the men's movement purely for some personal reason. Typically they knocked up some woman who they were having (so they thought) casual, consequence-free sex with then a child resulted and they resent having to pay for it. I do have some sympathy for such men, but not much. But the key point is that they only came to the men's movement in order to get back at the women they pay child support to. They are not interested in all the myriad other injustices that flow from feminism. They feel no compulsion to point out the lies and double-standards of feminism. They are purely out for themselves. Hence, deep down, unlike myself they feel no real disgust at the ideological system of feminism.

You will recognise such men by their erratic nature, and their tendency towards the hysterical. In other words they are psychologically feminine. And they share the female's love of irresponsibility for the consequences of one's actions, and a certain slutty lack of sexual self-control.

But back to the feminists...

If someone has taken a pee in a barrel of water I'm not going to drink from it, even if 90% of the volume of the barrel is still water and only 10% is pee.

Likewise, it is immaterial to me if there are some feminists with "good" intentions. The fact is that the overall force of the feminism movement over the last 30 years has done almost unbelievable damage to society.

I also don't buy into the idea that there are definite differences between categories of "feminism" and that we only have to criticise some and can befriend others. These different categories (of which there are seeming millions), are just silly, and largely exist to cater to the fact that the typical feminist woman thinks its her right to constantly change her mind as to what ideological "banner" she is carrying this week. Its fashion. And just as subject to the whims of fashion; a particularly reckless mindset for someone to have who is advocating how society should be run. There is also the fact that a woman's stated feminist "philosophy" is amazingly elastic and will grow or contract depending on who is in the room with her. Listen to a feminist when they are on a discussion board that is full of anti-feminist men they suddenly become amazingly timid in their stated opinions. They try to portray themselves as very reasonable and angelic. Get them in a room of women in a womyn's studies class and their "moderate" convictions would suddenly become a lot more radical.

Aside from all that, they have made no efforts to distinguish between "good" and "bad" men in their 30 year campaign of hatred against the male sex. One of the few things that stops them in their tracks and *MAKES* them change their reckless, irresponsible and hateful attacks is to give them a bitter dose of their own medicine: let them be known by the company they keep. Tar each and every one of the beasts with the same brush. It works.

IMHO women as a whole need to reap what they have sown.

Call it tough love.

In the same way that I would roughly grab a child that was about to fall onto a railway line, I have no problem in talking frankly to and about women - even if it hurts their egos. Call it karma. Its the ultimate moral law, trumped only by one: grace. If they say sorry then I will let them off the hook. But a sincere apology requires dropping any further use of the "feminist" banner, no matter which regiment of the feminist army they claim to have signed up to.

So, I recommend all men to call it like you see it. If the woman spouts feminist dogma, and acts like a nihilistic, slutty entitlement queen then you call her a feminist. And if she doesn't like it then tough sh*t. Part of being a man is being able to see through all the bullshit crap that these silly girls unthinkingly accept.

They've had their shot. And they f*cked it up. There is no reason in the world to believe they'd make a better job of it given another 30 years. And do the ones who speak good intentions actually follow through with them? Do they have any wider effect on society?

DO

THEY

F**K!

No, these women, all of them, have allowed this to happen. And all of them, in my book, are to be distrusted, to be kept an eye on. They are snakes, don't politely debate with them, just knock em over the head.

Also, in a weird way, the moderate sounding ones are actually more dangerous IMHO than the ones who are obviously kooky. The moderates, like Sirens or witches, are able to sweet talk and deceive men and women into thinking that *all* they want is just some nice "equality", when we actually know that even this is a racket to support a permanent gender war, and siphon off vast amounts of tax-payers money off to empower themselves. As Gandalf warns the characters in the book of Lord of the Rings when they go to find Sauraman, trapped in his tower after his defeat: don't let him talk to you, he will charm and deceive you.

I want them disempowered, in the same way that I don't want a bimbo who knows nothing about cars working on my car engine, I don't want these women who know nothing about society and Human nature trying to re-engineer it.

I have also found discussing gender issues with females online a waste of time. This is chiefly because I find that most of them do not have good honest insight into their own behaviour. They also simply write things that will make them look good, mixed in with a range of cliches and fashionable buzz-phrases that they have been indoctrinated with. Men are far more honest, direct, plain speaking and even occasionally come out with original insights.

The other side of this silly argument that we can somehow create a 'demilitarised zone' in which feminists and MRAs can work together (a complete fantasy) is that we must not do certain things because 'feminists use that tactic'.

So if feminists breathe and shit then we mustn't do that either?

We mustn't do anything that the feminist organisations have done? What? Like be EFFECTIVE?

My God some of these MRAs are just as dense as their feminist friends.

In short, I do not feel the need to gain validation or approval from any woman for what I'm doing.

In fact my message to women is: join me or get out of my way.