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« on: September 08, 2007, 04:23:35 AM »

Avoiding Kids: How Men Cope
With Being Cast as Predators
September 6, 2007; Page D1

These days, if Rian Romoli accidentally bumps into a child, he quickly raises his hands above his shoulders. "I don't want to give even the slightest indication that any inadvertent touching occurred," says Mr. Romoli, an economist in La Cañada Flintridge, Calif.

Ted Wallis, a doctor in Austin, Texas, recently came upon a lost child in tears in a mall. His first instinct was to help, but he feared people might consider him a predator. He walked away. "Being male," he explains, "I am guilty until proven innocent."

In San Diego, retiree Ralph Castro says he won't allow himself to be alone with a child -- even in an elevator.

Last month, I wrote about how our culture teaches children to fear men. Hundreds of men responded, many lamenting that they've now become fearful of children. They said they avert their eyes when kids are around, or think twice before holding even their own children's hands in public.

Frank McEnulty, a builder in Long Beach, Calif., was once a Boy Scout scoutmaster. "Today, I wouldn't do that job for anything," he says. "All it takes is for one kid to get ticked off at you for something and tell his parents you were acting weird on the campout."

It's true that men are far more likely than women to be sexual predators. But our society, while declining to profile by race or nationality when it comes to crime and terrorism, has become nonchalant about profiling men. Child advocates are advising parents never to hire male babysitters. Airlines are placing unaccompanied minors with female passengers.

Child-welfare groups say these precautions minimize risks. But men's rights activists argue that our societal focus on "bad guys" has led to an overconfidence in women. (Children who die of physical abuse are more often victims of female perpetrators, usually mothers, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.)

Though groups that cater to the young are working harder to identify predators, they also ask that risks be kept in perspective. Big Brothers Big Sisters of America does criminal background checks on each of its 250,000 volunteers, and has social workers assess them. Since 1990, the group says, it has had fewer than 10 abuse allegations per year. More than 98% of the alleged abusers were male.

"If we wanted to make sure we never had a problem, one approach would be to just become Big Sisters -- to say we won't serve boys," says Mack Koonce, the group's chief operating officer. But, of course, that would deny hundreds of thousands of boys contact with male mentors.

The Boy Scouts of America now has elaborate rules to prevent both abuse and false accusations. There are 1.2 million Scout leaders, and the organization kicks out about 175 of them a year over abuse allegations or for violating policies.

These policies can be intricate. For instance, four adult leaders are needed for each outing. If a sick child must go home, two adults drive him and two stay with the others, so no adult is ever alone with a Scout. "It's protection for the adults, as well as the children," says a Scouts spokesman.

The result of all this hyper-carefulness, however, is that men often feel like untouchables. In Cochranville, Pa., Ray Simpson, a bus driver, says that he used to have 30 kids stop at his house on Halloween. But after his divorce, with people knowing he was a man living alone, he had zero visitors. "I felt like crying at the end of the evening," he says.

At Houston Intercontinental Airport, businessman Mitch Reifel was having a meal with his 5-year-old daughter when a policeman showed up to question him. A passerby had reported his interactions with the child seemed "suspicious."

In Skokie, Ill., Steve Frederick says the director of his son's day-care center called him in to reprimand him for "inappropriately touching the children." "I was shocked," he says. "Whatever did she mean?" She was referring to him reading stories with his son and other kids on his lap. A parent had panicked when her child mentioned sitting on a man's lap.

"Good parenting and good education demand that we let children take risks," says Mr. Frederick, a career coach. "We install playground equipment, putting them at risk of falls and broken bones. Why? We want them to challenge themselves and develop muscles and confidence.

"Likewise, while we don't want sexual predators to harm our kids, we do want our kids to develop healthy relationships with adults, both men and women. Instilling a fear of men is a profound disservice to everyone."

Write to Jeffrey Zaslow at jeffrey.zaslow@wsj.com



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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2007, 10:57:49 PM »

A lot of feminists argue that all men are paedophiles and rapists.

The media are supportive of feminist ideology.

Therefore, the problem is derived from the media's biased support of feminist propaganda.
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2007, 12:45:34 AM »

Women are also perpetrators of sexual abuse of boys and, less frequently, girls. See http://www.jimhopper.com/male-ab/  for a comprehensive review of this subject and also http://www.secasa.com.au/index.php/workers/25/37.  Feminists will tell you that female violence and female child abuse is men's fault, women perpetrators are just "responding" to male "oppression", which, to me, is nonsense. Everyone is responsible for their own action. If we hold a male pedophile responsible regardless of what happenned in his past, entrap him on television for "mass entertainment", and post his name on the internet for all to see, the female abuser should be held to the same standard.
Guys, I would implore you to not use vulgar language and images. Words like "cunt", etc. are hurtful and humiliating to all women, including those of us who support men's movement. It is not necessary to get the message accross. Thanks.
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2007, 04:29:13 AM »

Well, I don't use such language unless I think it's specifically called for but I don't advise anyone else here to refrain because women don't like it, even women claiming to be friendly to some of our causes. Once you start letting women tell you how to express yourself things will go downhill because they'll move to telling you what to say.

It's always nice to have women here but you must adapt to us, not the other way around.
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2007, 05:11:14 AM »

Good response to that request dcm.
We don't disrespect and rant and insult and personally attack like the feminist bloggers do., but we don't show deference to you just because your a female either.  If you're offended by Chris's position on "kicking in the cunt" vis a vis ..."in the balls", you'll just have to deal with it.

I'm glad the WSJ guy followed up on that article.
The further alienation of men.

From Tom Waits Song, "What's He Building in There?"

What's he building in there?
What the hell is he building
In there?
He has subscriptions to those
Magazines... He never
Waves when he goes by
He's hiding something from
The rest of us... He's all
To himself... I think I know
Why... He took down the
Tire swing from the Peppertree
He has no children of his
Own you see... He has no dog
And he has no friends and
His lawn is dying... and
What about all those packages
He sends. What's he building in there?
With that hook light
On the stairs. What's he building
In there... I'll tell you one thing
He's not building a playhouse for
The children what's he building
In there?

Now what's that sound from under the door?
He's pounding nails into a
Hardwood floor... and I
Swear to god I heard someone
Moaning low... and I keep
Seeing the blue light of a
T.V. show...
He has a router
And a table saw... and you
Won't believe what Mr. Sticha saw
There's poison underneath the sink
Of course... But there's also
Enough formaldehyde to choke
A horse... What's he building
In there. What the hell is he
Building in there? I heard he
Has an ex-wife in some place
Called Mayors Income, Tennessee
And he used to have a
consulting business in Indonesia...
but what is he building in there?
What the hell is building in there?

He has no friends
But he gets a lot of mail
I'll bet he spent a little
Time in jail...
I heard he was up on the
Roof last night
Signaling with a flashlight
And what's that tune he's
Always whistling...
What's he building in there?
What's he building in there?

We have a right to know...


Now I know why kids don't come to my door at Halloween, but flock to the neighbors.  Sad how the feminist controlled media is able to insight hysterical fear against men.  Their ploys work so well.  Complete alienation of men from society.  Single men are "profiled" as rapists, pedophiles or homosexuals.  If they're not married there must be something wrong with them. 
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2007, 05:18:55 AM »

I was not "advising", "telling", or"not dealing" with it. Calm down. That was just a request.
This is a great site, but those who are stuck in the conflict endlessly describing "the problem" especially using inflammatory language and images accomplish very little. That describes fringe elements on both sides. Cooperation is a superior strategy which made humans such a formidable species. I am all for men taking their power back and not being "victims" like the feminists.
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2007, 05:36:58 AM »

I was not "advising", "telling", or"not dealing" with it. Calm down. That was just a request.
This is a great site, but those who are stuck in the conflict endlessly describing "the problem" especially using inflammatory language and images accomplish very little. That describes fringe elements on both sides. Cooperation is a superior strategy which made humans such a formidable species. I am all for men taking their power back and not being "victims" like the feminists.

Excellent. Then you'll cooperate with kicking the stinking bitches in their cunts.

In common with most women you seem not to understand how men communicate.  Advising one to "stay calm" is a bit suspicious since I'm not experiencing any excitement.  We will do it our way here.
By "cooperation" I hope you don't mean we do what you want and you take over everything...it ain't gonna happen.
Again, we're happy to have women here. Unlike women toward men, we won't start out trying to run you off, though we won't put up with anything we consider negative or anti-male. The reason is that women frequently show up seeming to be sympathetic and soon reveal themselves as feminists.
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2007, 09:19:25 AM »

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Guys, I would implore you to not use vulgar language and images. Words like "cunt", etc. are hurtful and humiliating to all women, including those of us who support men's movement. It is not necessary to get the message accross. Thanks.

Don't come here and start laying down rules. You joined our group,we didn't join yours.
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2007, 09:26:23 AM »

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Cooperate with whom? The feminists? That's like jews cooperating with nazis.
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2007, 09:45:22 AM »

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Cooperate with whom? The feminists? That's like jews cooperating with nazis.

Possibly we're supposed to be shamed into seeing that as a female she is infinitely superior to us morally and otherwise and if we'd all quit being men and turn to girls global warming would stop, al-Qaida will shave their beards, and wildlife will flourish.

We'll see.
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2007, 03:46:20 PM »

I get your point elfprincess, but this is the way men talk when women and brainwashed or pussified men aren't around. 

I find this board to be informational and good for plenty of blatant venting without fear of retribution and attack from the brainwashed gynocracy, men AND women.  These are the only guys I can talk to about how I REALLY feel based on whats REALLY happening.

This is freedom of speech from the men's rights underground.  Raw and unedited. 
NO FEMINAZI IMPOSED PC HERE BABY!
And no personal attacks or disrespect towards you, but you have to keep up.
You don't jump on ANY board and suggest changes off the bat.
You have to earn that right, regardless of how offended you might be.

You want anger, insults and hatred?
Hop on the feminist blog train for a while.
That's where I ride.
The grrls make us here look like loving-caring-pacifist-humanists.
I come here for breaks and to reload.

Your invited to nose around a bit and get a feel for the jist.
Your inputs and contributions are welcome.
But be aware, the "FEM-dar" is very fine tuned here and if you find your panties getting in bunch over what is said you might want to move on.

Feminism exposed is NOT pretty.
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2007, 02:12:16 AM »

Guys, I would implore you to not use vulgar language and images. Words like "cunt", etc. are hurtful and humiliating to all women, including those of us who support men's movement. It is not necessary to get the message accross. Thanks.

Where I live (Australia), the word is used quite frequently, and it's rarely used as an insult towards women.  We [Australians] use it as a verb and a noun, including it in sentences for comical purposes and for the practical reason of adding emotion to what we say.  When we [Australians] use it as an "offensive" word, then more often than not it's used to identify a person who is callous and/or destructive.  In other words, it is a gender-neutral word in Australia.

I use the word about 30-100 times per day, as it's my favourite word and I love saying it.  I don't say it in order to "humiliate" wormen -- I say it because its sharpness calms me down when I am tense.  If I am talking about some one, I might say refer to them by saying; "that cunt over there just did blah".  The other day I aggravated an old fracture of the ulna bone in my right arm -- I didn't know it was there until I had my arm x-rayed last week -- and it hurt like hell.  So, I ended up saying something along the lines of, "I wish the cunt -- in reference to my arm -- didn't fucken hurt so much".

In summary, I don't see anything wrong with the word.
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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2007, 04:24:29 AM »

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It wasn't a real complaint, just a wedge to  gain control over expression that would lead to control over content.
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2007, 10:17:29 AM »

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It wasn't a real complaint, just a wedge to  gain control over expression that would lead to control over content.

And these women are supposed to be our friends? Some friends.
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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2007, 02:08:17 PM »

Well, you people are awfully testy here. Once again, I was not laying down rules, Masculist Man. I shared how it makes me feel and ASKED for it not to be used. A simple "NO" , this is how we do things here from the sign owner would have been fine without jumping all over me for trying to "take over your site"!
By cooperation I mean reasonable men and women working together to change antimale perceptions in the society through media, courts, etc.
 Vulgar derogatory words towards women (or men) are hurtful, disrespectful, and humiliating to me personally, as, I am sure they are to many others, that is all. Can I not share it?
You are also so suspicious! I detest liberal feminist agenda. I love men. I am married to a great guy and together we are doing what we can to make this a better place for men and women. I do not believe in being stuck in the conflict, though, but in working proactively and cooperatively towards solutions.
Possibly we're supposed to be shamed into seeing that as a female she is infinitely superior to us morally and otherwise and if we'd all quit being men and turn to girls global warming would stop, al-Qaida will shave their beards, and wildlife will flourish.

We'll see.
I think this was uncalled for. Kira
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