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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1075891/Cannabis-abuser-snapped-16-month-old-daughters-two.html

Cannabis abuser 'snapped his 16-month-old daughter's back in two'
By Chris Brooke
Last updated at 8:44 AM on 10th October 2008
Add to My Stories A cannabis abuser murdered his 16-month-old baby by snapping her back in two following weeks of horrific physical abuse, a court heard yesterday.
James Howson, 25, twisted his fragile and malnourished daughter's arms and legs before breaking her spine with sickening force, it was alleged.
Little Amy spent the last eight weeks of her life in agony after suffering fractures and bruises all over her body.
 Horrific physical abuse: 16-month-old Amy had her spine broken in two and had fractures and bruises all over her body

Her jobless father broke both her arms, a leg and a rib with brutal beatings and no one took her to a doctor for treatment, Leeds Crown Court was told.
Heath visitors had tried in vain to check on the baby after a missed appointment, but her appalling suffering was only revealed after her death on 23 December last year.
Describing the fatal attack in graphic terms to the jury, prosecutor Gary Burrell, QC, said: 'He snapped her back in two at waist level as though he held her over his knee or thigh or possibly a chair or sofa back with her back downwards.
'He then used extreme force on her body so as to hyperextend the back and cause a complete break at the level of the first lumbar vertebra. Her back was literally snapped in two.'
 Amy's mother, Tina Hunt, is awaiting sentence for allowing the death of a child and one offence of cruelty

Amy also suffered a serious injury to her forehead just before her death and had bleeding to the brain.
'On any view it was a fairly horrific type of assault,' said Mr Burrell.
He said Amy would have died within a few hours of receiving these injuries at the Doncaster home Howson shared with his partner and Amy's mother Tina Hunt, 26.
Howson denies murder and two offences of cruelty.
Hunt has admitted allowing the death of a child and one offence of cruelty and will be sentenced at the end of the trial.
The jury has not been told of a motive for the attacks, but they coincided with Hunt becoming pregnant again.
When Howson was arrested he tried to blame the family pet Staffordshire bull terrier, telling police the dog had got into bed with Amy the night before her death.
Mr Burrell said the toddler would have been in 'significant pain' for up to eight weeks due to the numerous fractures and bruises. Family members said she screamed continuously if picked up.
The court heard Hunt was in the house at the time Amy died. She had been suffering morning sickness and leaving Howson to deal with the baby.
When Amy was found not to be breathing she rang her father who raised the alarm.
The baby was lying on a sheet in the doorway wearing only a nappy when police and paramedics arrived. Howson was trying to resuscitate her.
Asked what happened he told officers the child had fallen out of  bed the previous night and banged her head.
He said he took her downstairs, smoked some cannabis and cradled the baby in his arms until they both fell asleep.
He said he found her not breathing and without a pulse when he woke up at 9.30 am.
A pathologist concluded Amy was 'seriously undernourished and dehydrated' and there was 'clear evidence of deprivation of food and water.'
She weighed only 6.2kg (13lb 7oz), which was the same as she weighed at six months of age.
Mr Burrell said of the baby's injuries: 'It is inconceivable that anyone looking after this child would not have been aware of her pain and distress following those injuries and that any reasonable person would have obtained medical assistance.'
He said none of Howson's explanations for some of her injuries were 'in any way credible.'
Amy's grandfather Colin Hunt said Amy was happy until a few months before her death then seemed to 'go down' and stopped smiling and was always screaming.

He thought her right arm was 'not right' and told his daughter to take Amy to the doctor, but she never did.
The prosecution alleged Hunt must have known about the assaults by Howson and she failed to take reasonable steps to protect the child by contacting the police or social services.
The baby was registered with a doctor and had a six-month check.

After she missed her 12-month routine appointment health visitors twice visited the house in October last year and no one answered the door.

A letter was left informing them of the importance of keeping medical appointments.
The case continues.
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[bobx23456]

I don't know.  I've lost all my sympathy for cunts, even little ones.    Had she survived she would have hated men all her life.

I'm also wondering about the alleged "facts" of the case.   The fellow is said to be "cannabis user" which tends to make people more mellow.   I'm wondering if the abusive mother wasn't actually the guilty party in most of the injuries to the child. 

Blessings

Bob

[dcm]

I don't know.  I've lost all my sympathy for cunts, even little ones.    Had she survived she would have hated men all her life.

I'm also wondering about the alleged "facts" of the case.   The fellow is said to be "cannabis user" which tends to make people more mellow.   I'm wondering if the abusive mother wasn't actually the guilty party in most of the injuries to the child. 

Blessings

Bob

The mother is the pivotal figure here, though the man needs punishment for being controlled by her.
If the mother were inclined to protect the kid rather than wishing to be rid of her, the perp would have kidnapped her. A man associated with a woman who kills or injures her kids is doing so with her approval and doesn't have to hide the acts from her. (Or so he thinks.)

[Serpent Slayer]

It's reefer madness that's to blame, of course.  Only  psychoactive substances cause otherwise well-behaved level-headed rational people to go berserk.   

[Natural.]

Any man who kills a cunt is doing the society a favor.   The age of the cunt is not a relevant factor.

Men should not be punished for killing a cunt. 

With each post you make, I get an even more distinct impression that you're a plant the feminists injected to discredit those working toward Men's rights.


I hope that the poor child is born again into a good home, and that both of the adults get stiff sentences.

[bobx23456]

With each post you make, I get an even more distinct impression that you're a plant the feminists injected to discredit those working toward Men's rights.

With each post you make I get the distinct impression that you are here to promote feminism and women's rights.

Blessings

Bob

[ChristinaAF]

  I think I'm going to be sick. Thirteen pounds is infant weight. Broken arms, broken leg, broken ribs, broken spine...that baby didn't know a month without chronic pain.

I hope every so-called adult directly or indirectly responsible for her death rots in hell.

[jess334]

Topic: if there ever was an argument for the death penalty...

Yeah. It's this kind of event which tests ones mettle in their beliefs.....or unfortunately provides an outlet for which to demonstrate their ignorance and stupidity.

As much as I would like to believe myself to be "civilised" and above such primal relfex, when it comes down to it I would gladly kill in a horrible manner those bastards responsible for this sickening act of evil. You can't help but wonder though what this reaction implies for humanity in general.

Any man who kills a cunt is doing the society a favor.   The age of the cunt is not a relevant factor.

Men should not be punished for killing a cunt. 

I do hope that you live you're own life with nothing less than the incredible strength and sense of justice you expect of others Bob.

I would be rather disappointed to find out anything to the contrary.

J

[Gears]

Any man who kills a cunt is doing the society a favor.   The age of the cunt is not a relevant factor.

Men should not be punished for killing a cunt. 

With each post you make, I get an even more distinct impression that you're a plant the feminists injected to discredit those working toward Men's rights.

Then you've underestimated how much anger and frustration men feel toward feminists and their ilk.

[Natural.]

Then you've underestimated how much anger and frustration men feel toward feminists and their ilk.

I didn't think there was any force strong enough to eliminate the sense of logic and justice Naturally ingrained within most men, I suppose it just isn't there for some.

Assuming that a one and a half year old baby is "feminist ilk," just goes to prove what the feminists want you all to prove: you're a bunch of sour misogynists.  I don't know why they bother to waste financial resources to discredit you, as you do it quite well on your own without costing them a penny.  I suppose they do it just because they can't put cameras on everything, and even if the whole world did view text-based internet as its source of information, they'd have to blow you and Bob out of proportion just to hide the sensible likes of DCM and Raider. 

The only person I ever hated and the only person to ever hurt me was a white, heterosexual male.  Now those are the groups I wish to protect.  The girls I know who have been hurt by boys in men's clothing, who have suffered at the hands of the people supposed to be their fathers, grandfathers, brothers, uncles, etc. are the girls who work hardest to secure the rights of real men.  It doesn't always work that way, but this is beside the point.

That baby did have certain rights, whether you choose to acknowledge them or not, Bob.  She had the right to grow and to be healed, to live until adulthood and to look back with whatever degree of objectivity she developed and to decide her own course of life and action in regards to the harm caused to her.  Obviously, if the child had survived, she'd have been placed in foster care, after spending a sufficient amount of time in the hospital.  Seeing as she was still rather young, she'd have been adopted quickly.  She could've made a family very happy, and upon their discretion, she might never have known what happened to her.


So, am I to take it that Bob and Gears are of the school subscribing to "total war" against the female sex, rather than some method of "reformation" or such?

[bobx23456]

So, am I to take it that Bob and Gears are of the school subscribing to "total war" against the female sex, rather than some method of "reformation" or such?

No, hon.  Females declared a very violent and destructive war on men, and boys, many years ago.   If you females don't like the war go whine to the feminazi females who have made it happen.

For additional reading on this topic see: 

It Wasn't Men   http://bobstruth.blogspot.com/2005/05/it-wasnt-men.html

and  be sure to read:  It Really Doesn't Matter   http://bobstruth.blogspot.com/2005/06/it-really-doesnt-matter.html



Blessings

Bob

[ChristinaAF]

Where's the crystal ball? For heaven sake, this is a little baby. She hurt no one. No one. If we were talking about a lippy adult feminist here, then there'd probably be shrugs all around. In cases like this, involving babies, couldn't we wait to condemn her as a feminist until she actually started acting like one?

[Gears]

No, hon.  Females declared a very violent and destructive war on men, and boys, many years ago.   If you females don't like the war go whine to the feminazi females who have made it happen.

I agree.

Any man who wants to take the fight directly to the feminists/women with no compromises, call them out on their shit, is shouted down with words like "sexist" or "misogynist" as a means to silence us. Women who are "for men's rights" usually are because they want to control what type of rights we have and how we should go about getting them. Feminists are scared we're coming after them and when we do they fear the repercussions of their hatred. We can only criticise women if we have their blessing and when they agree to that much we can only use words that they deem to be appropriate. It's the typical female controlling and shaming tactic.

[bobx23456]

Where's the crystal ball? For heaven sake, this is a little baby. She hurt no one. No one. If we were talking about a lippy adult feminist here, then there'd probably be shrugs all around. In cases like this, involving babies, couldn't we wait to condemn her as a feminist until she actually started acting like one?

It really doesn't matter, hon.   The femiNAZI started a very violent, very deadly war on men.  Many "innocent" females will end up dying before it is over.   As long as you are still blaming the victims and refuse to recognize the perpetrators of the war you are still on their side.

It is far too late for females to just apologize and keep their ill gotten gains.  The only way to end the war is to counter attack and recapture the territory that so many men and boys were killed to capture.    The sooner the femiNAZI are defeated the sooner peace will be restored and the deaths can end.

In a decent non-femiNazi society children would be born into decent families and single mother crack whores like this story would be severely punished, not applauded for bearing bastards into this kind of circumstances.   Blame for the child's death lies squarely at the feet of the femiNazi war machine.  Death and suffering will continue until the war on men and society is ended.   

Blessings

Bob

[Natural.]

No, hon.  Females declared a very violent and destructive war on men, and boys, many years ago.   If you females don't like the war go whine to the feminazi females who have made it happen.

Just another addition to the long list of contradictory ideas coming from the MRM.

Women act like children (A bad thing, and a reason why they shouldn't be given so many rights according to most MRAs), but whenever an issue of "blame" or "conflict" comes up, it's an MRA's initial response to shout, "Women started it!"

As Mama used to say, "I don't care who started it."  Both sides are being retarded beyond comparison, except to the other.  This is the kind of crap that discourages me from helping (Which reminds me, you guys say that you don't need women's help, but that we should be entirely responsible for cleaning up the mess--which is it?).  You have no common platform other than complaining amongst yourselves and leaving a digital trail for feminists to post across the planet to demonstrate that the MRM is unnecessary and just a woman-haters club.  

I suppose I've been spoiled, as I have had exposure to such great men, but I take it as my personal requirement to live as I think is right, no matter what the circumstances around me dictate, that's the only reason that I support men's rights as a whole, rather than just rights for the few good people I've met.  It's very unfortunate that you people are accepted in the men's movement.  I don't care about the rights of adult children, because they're not going to take any responsibilities, anyhow.  What you believe and how you act are your own responsibility, in the end.  If it's acceptable to model one's life as a reactionary, then I ought to be just another straight-white-guy-hater.

Being male doesn't make you a man, and once real men take their rights back, which is inevitable, given the Nature of men, I'm sure they'll have their time straightening you out.  Saying that it is good for a baby to die because she has committed a crime by being female (which is what you have said) does make you a woman-hater.  Take responsibility for your own words.


The "war" I'm fighting isn't for you people; it's for the future of my family and the families around us, for our function and for our freedom.  It's not for your petty bitterness, nor is it for the idiocy of feminism.  "Two wrongs don't make a right," and all that.

It's disappointing to see so much idiocy amongst men.  At least I don't get my hopes up for women being intelligent any longer, so it's just a pleasant surprise when they are, but I figured most of the males with female-structured brains would be feminists.  I figured wrongly.